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How to turn off the lights, but not a lamp?

How to turn off the lights, but not a lamp?

So the easy answer is probably in the name of the accessories, but I hope there is another way that I just do not know. Basically, I have a room with both lights and a stand up lamp that are activated for both the HomeKit. I have the general expenses called “room lights” and the other called “room lamp”. So when I ask Siri to turn off the “room lights”, both the surface and the lamp are turned off. But I didn’t want the “room lamp” to go out, only the “room lights.” So Siri knows that a lamp is a light and she thinks that when I say “room lights” I mean ALL the lights in that room. Is there a solution or setting? Besides me, do I have to say the words “overhead”?